[Menvi-discuss] blind musicians with perfect pitch

Chris Smart csmart8 at cogeco.ca
Sun Sep 17 15:37:40 EDT 2017


heheh oh yeah, recorders can be way off. I have 
bad memories of grade 6 music class. Imagine more 
than 30 people enthusiastically over-blowing 
recorders in an echoing gymnasium. :)

At 03:09 PM 9/17/2017, you wrote:
>Hi Chris, The difficulty with the recorder seems 
>to be the fact it seems sharper, like the E may 
>be a little higher.  I've been told I have 
>perfect pitch, for what it means.  I noticed 
>when they asked me to identify the note, it was 
>harder to gague.  I understand what you're 
>saying though, and its interesting. Jared Rimer 
>Music Education Network for the Visually 
>Impaired www.menvi.org bridging the gap between 
>the blind and music education When reporting 
>broken links, please kindly let us know what web 
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>quickly as possible. Thanks! On 9/17/2017 10:17 
>AM, Chris Smart via Menvi-discuss wrote: > 
>Jared, I'm curious about something. Are we using 
>different definitions > of perfect pitch? You 
>say you can identify notes on one instrument 
>but > not another, i.e. recorder. I'm going to 
>argue here that that, is not > perfect pitch, 
>also known as absolute pitch. > > Fourth octave 
>B on the piano is the same pitch as on any 
>other > instrument. It's fundamental is around 
>500 hurtz. If you can sing a B > note that's in 
>tune, without a reference, or identify one that 
>is > played, on anything capable of producing 
>that frequency tone, that is > perfect 
>pitch. > > Electrical hum in North America is 60 
>hurtz, and that sounds like a note > 
>between  first octave B-flat and B natural. 
>similarly, if I hear 50 > hurtz electrical hum 
>in the UK, my brain immediately says "oh, that's 
>a > little sharp of 1st octave G". > > At 12:23 
>PM 9/17/2017, you wrote: >> Elizabeth, >> >> You 
>are definitely not rambling.  Even today, I've 
>still got perfect >> pitch, and my father baught 
>my sister's children recorders.  I have a >> 
>hard time telling what notes those are, as I 
>haven't played recorder >> since I learned it in 
>elementary school, but I can tell perfect 
>pitch >> on a piano or string instrument.  I 
>did remember that you can't blow >> too hard on 
>the mouthpiece of the recorder or it'll 
>squeak.  I think I >> had one of those notes, 
>but i know too, that there are different 
>tuned >> recorders, and each one has different 
>notes for the wholes you need to >> hold 
>down.  Thanks for posting, and feel free to 
>participate at any >> time you wish. >> >> Jared 
>Rimer >> Music Education Network for the 
>Visually Impaired >> www.menvi.org >> bridging 
>the gap between the blind and music 
>education >> >> When reporting broken links, 
>please kindly let us know what web page >> you 
>came from so we may fix the error as quickly as 
>possible. Thanks! >> >> On 9/17/2017 2:48 AM, 
>Beth Smaligo via Menvi-discuss wrote: >>> Hello 
>to the discussion group, >>> It's been 
>fascinating reading the latest chatter about 
>blind >>> professional orchestral musicians. I'm 
>solid as far as musical >>> comprehension, but 
>as far as execution I wouldn't make the cut for 
>an >>> orchestra now, although I played in a 
>junior orchestra for fourth >>> through eighth 
>graders in seventh and eighth grade. Contra 
>the >>> stereotype, I do not have perfect pitch, 
>at least not anymore. I have >>> always been 
>painfully self-conscious about disclosing what I 
>am about >>> to say, but as it's nothing 
>remotely inappropriate to post publicly, >>> I 
>might as well ditch the introversion and open 
>the floodgate. It >>> would probably have come 
>up one day since my mother, an extremely >>> 
>gifted music educator and informal advocate for 
>blind equality, might >>> have eventually posted 
>as such. It seems apparently that I had >>> 
>perfect pitch until age 7. I cannot recall what 
>that must have been >>> like, nor can I imagine 
>it now hard, as I try, but I must have had 
>it >>> because if you asked, and sometimes when 
>I was younger even when not >>> asked, much to 
>my chagrin at the time, both of my parents would 
>say >>> to certain people and retell me that 
>upon a key being randomly >>> brushed up against 
>or deliberately struck I would immediately >>> 
>invariably pipe up with unerring accuracy its 
>note. We'll never know >>> how I lost it, and I 
>have my limitations (OK I opened the 
>floodgate, >>> but I will not be a research 
>subject), but my mom has this theory >>> that I 
>also discovered that I was different, as in how 
>being blind >>> separated me from the other kids 
>around second grade time because the >>> others 
>didn't absolutely have to run up and touch 
>everything anymore, >>> or at least not nearly 
>as much. This "discovering that I was >>> 
>different," as she terms it, we think 
>psychologically traumatized me, >>> and one of 
>the damages was the loss of this mysterious gift 
>of >>> automatic ability to name notes. I think 
>also in consequence my >>> reliance on braille 
>music is such that I could use some formal 
>ear >>> training. I'd love to learn to improvise 
>in an American folk style >>> kind of way, and I 
>really appreciate jazz, though my tendencies 
>are >>> definitely classical. I'm sorry: perhaps 
>it is that I've just rambled >>> on in a sort of 
>self-pity, though this has certainly not been 
>my >>> intention. I think a lot, often too much, 
>and when I journal >>> privately, I find that my 
>entries are seldom short or without detail. >>> 
>Some of this is also the result of the expansive 
>writing and clarity >>> drilled into an English 
>literature and communication double major >>> 
>(that was my undergrad degree). Anyway, I 
>recently had an almost >>> video game-like dream 
>like a fantasy world recently (and I've had >>> 
>variations of this dream over the years) in 
>which one of the powers I >>> could acquire 
>along the Path to Success in whatever fantasy 
>world my >>> dream had made up, nonspecific as 
>it was that I could ever remember >>> upon 
>awakening, was perfect pitch. I guess then in my 
>dream, and only >>> in those particular 
>fantasy-world dreams, could I have perfect 
>pitch. >>> I've tried, never successfully, to 
>identify random notes by clumsily >>> banging 
>random keys on a piano and recording and then 
>playing back >>> said recording, but only 
>playing back after a day or two so as not to >>> 
>be able to recall, even if unable to identify 
>notes by name, at least >>> the relative non 
>tune I'd "played." Am I making any semblance 
>of >>> sense? Someone was all means please tell 
>me bluntly if I've just >>> confused an entire 
>discussion list with gibberish and made a 
>total >>> idiot of myself. I'm feeling rather 
>foolish posting this. I'll go >>> back to mostly 
>monitoring; over and out. >>> Elizabeth [Beth] 
>A. Smaligo, B.A., M.A. >>> Sent from my 
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