[Menvi-discuss] Accessible Software for Composing Music

Mon Jan 4 16:38:52 UTC 2016

Hi Melissa,

  How serious is your daughter about composing, and do you think it will be a lasting interest?  I know I have seen your name on the lists before but can't remember the context.  

  All the solutions people have given so far are excellent, and pretty much the only ones available if she wants to produce notation.  Since she uses the Mac, I'm concerned that in addition to needing a way to run Windows software on the Mac, she might also need to get the Jaws screen reader, which would add significantly to the costs.  If she just wants the thrill of producing multiple instrument tracks, you might consider something simple, like Garage Band, which I understand is accessible on IOS systems and probably the Mac.  If she does want to produce notation, then she will have to use Lime or Sibelius and get JAWS.  I have heard that people are experimenting using the free Windows screen reader NVDIA with current versions of Sibelius, but I don't think it's stable enough for someone without previous experience with Sibelius and access issues.  

  David
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  From: Melissa LaGrand 
  To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy 
  Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 7:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Accessible Software for Composing Music

  Thanks, Bill.

  We are Mac-only at this point so I would have to do the VMWare Fusion.  

  Melissa

  On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chris Smart <csmart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

    he did not say they work with Voiceover on the Mac. He said they work inside a virtual Windows machine on the Mac, meaning you are still using Windows and the Jaws screenreader.

    At 10:10 PM 1/1/2016, you wrote:

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      Hi Bill. Has GF and Lime worked with voiceover on the iphone? Iâ€™m asking because you said they work with voiceover on the mac. Thanks.
      Leslie

      From: Menvi-discuss [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of Bill
      Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:30 AM
      To: 'This is for discussing music and braille literacy'
      Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Accessible Software for Composing Music

      Dear Melissa,

      In your search for accessible music software which your daughter can use to compose, be sure to consider Lime from Dancing Dots.  I myself am totally blind and have produced lead sheets, scores, and individual parts in standard print notation that sighted musicians have found quite readable.  The version of Lime that works best for people like me who use synthetic speech and braille is called Lime Aloud.  The version of Lime optimized for people with low vision is called Lime Lighter.

      Since Dancing Dots owns Lime and we are dedicated first and foremost to accessibility for visually impaired musicians, Limeâ€™s accessibility will only improve with new releases.  That is, you will not have any need to revert to an outdated version because accessibility of features that had been accessible in previous versions has been broken in a new release.

      Dancing Dots does offer free evaluation versions of our accessible notation software.  Please contact me off-list using my <mailto:info at DancingDots.com>info at DancingDots.com  address for instructions on how to access the private download link.

      Note: Lime and GOODFEEL (the braille music component of the suite of software) will now run under Windows10 and earlier version of Windows.  However, the access features of Lime related to the JAWS screen reader will only work with JAWS 16 and earlier.  That is, we do not yet support JAWS 17.  Also, some users have reported success running Lime and GoodFeel under VMWare Fusion on a Mac computer.

      For details:
      Lime Aloud: <http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/limealoud.htm>www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/limealoud.htm 
      Lime Lighter: <http://www.dancingdots.com/limelighter/limelightermain.htm>www.dancingdots.com/limelighter/limelightermain.htm

      Bill

      From: Menvi-discuss [<mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org>mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of Melissa LaGrand
      Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 7:02 AM
      To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
      Subject: [Menvi-discuss] logic pro x

      Hello MENVI,

      Have any blind or VI people in the group worked successfully with Logic Pro X?  We would like to find accessible software that my blind daughter can use to compose.  From my own explorations on the web it doesn't look terribly accessible, but I'd like to hear from the experts.

      Thanks,

      Melissa LaGrand
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